The baptism of Joachim Johannes was witnessed by; Anna Maartens and Johannes Pienaar Catharina Maartens and Johan Schonveld These two girls are sisters and daughters of Joachim Hendrik Maartens 1858-1932. They had a brother Paulus Jacobus Maartens which could not have been the one married to Lesya Sophia Venter as that would have made him 13 when Joachim Johannes was born.